Seattle Transportation Department will be conducting a major transportation study in our neighborhood (as we requested in meetings with their Director and with the Mayor).
If you'd like to be help them identify our major transportation concerns please drop me a note or leave me a message (323-5929). Thanks.
Questions about the process? Contact Tony Mazzella, Associate Transportation Planner (email@example.com ;(206) 684-0811;fax:(206) 615-0899)
Details of this "scoping" process (as it's called in plan-speak) from Tony:
Madison-Miller Transportation Scoping
Goal: To identify major issues for future transportation study
Time Frame: 1-3 evening meetings over July - August ( 1 to 2 hours per meeting, say 7 to 9 PM at Miller Community Center)
Group Size: 5-8 community representatives and City staff
Determine community boundaries for future planning purposes
Identify major concerns both broadly-based and related to specific locations (intersections, corridors, etc.)
Define objectives for transportation study including criteria to measure success
Develop inventory of data and information necessary to support transportation plan
Suggest strategies and methods for community involvement in future planning
Identify anticipated major projects that will influence future planning (e.g. TRANSLAKE)
Identify near-term activities that may be accomplished prior to major planning initiative
A) General consensus is to have only 1 or 2 meetings and do the rest by E-mail and website.
B) Two possibilities [suggested by Tony Mazzella ] for dates for meetings (at Miller Community Center, 7 - 9 PM):
July 24th and (if needed) Aug 7th
July 31st and (if needed) Aug 14th? (I'll be away on the 14th).
**** Your votes, please, and/or other suggestions.
C) My views of the neighborhoods transportation concerns are at:
http://home.jps.net/~tayles/transportation/index.htm (see letters to Grace Crunican, head of Seattle Transportation].
***** D) Please send me any initial thoughts you may have on Tony's suggested goals for our meetings: [my comments/suggestions are in brackets]:
1 Determine community boundaries for future planning purposes [I suggest Madison-Miller boundaries: http://home.jps.net/~tayles/miller_map.gif ]
2 Identify major concerns both broadly-based and related to
locations (intersections, corridors, etc.) [see my links, above: I suggest this should be our main goal ]
3 Define objectives for transportation study including criteria
4 Develop inventory of data and information necessary to support
transportation plan [I think this is a task for the professional planner]
5 Suggest strategies and methods for community involvement
planning [ Do more of what we do now! Involve Mount Zion?]
6 Identify anticipated major projects that will influence future
(e.g. TRANSLAKE) [One for the professionals, I suggest: we don't know about the major projects ]
7 Identify near-term activities that may be accomplished prior
planning initiative [Haven't we just finished the obvious near-term objective: the crosswalk/traffic light on Madison. I think we must concentrate on the big, long-term, picture. ]
E) Here's what I think should happen:
You send me your thoughts (see above)
You help me choose dates for meetings
I meet with Tony at 2PM on 7/11/02 to discuss what we've learnt so far (you're welcome to join us).
I'll post digests on the website, send you E-mail meeting reminders and send out a general E-mail announcing the meetings (they, like all our meetings, are open to all).
We'll meet, discuss (etc.) and send Tony off with a crystal clear idea of what we need from our transportation study.
One issue I would certainly like to see addressed would be
to build out a
curb bulb on the corner of 21st Ave E and John street (with a tree and or
shrubs). I see several cars a day driving the wrong way down this one way
street. It is an accident waiting to happen with all the kids playing in the
park and at the school. There are several examples of such curb bulbs along
Aloha and Federal between 15th and 19th.
Tony did a great job of putting together a comphrehensive list
of goals. It
might be helpful to determine which can be accomplished in a short amount of
time and place them first, which #2 may fall into and #7 is already
I could speak about the speed demons on John and the accidents and near misses at the intersection of 22nd Ave E & E John when the time is right...
Annie Delucchi :)
200 block 22nd Ave E.
A couple comments. When you talk about boundaries being Madison,
Miller...While the focus may be the areas Madison and north, I believe that
the area south of Madison (at least by one block, if not two) should be
included as this will/should directly impact them.
I agree with your list of concerns address in your letter to
While I feel fortunate to have off-street parking, the side streets are
jammed with cars and the influx of residents due to the new housing will
only exacerbate the situation. Frequently I see cars rushing down 22nd, a
very dangerous situation, especially with the number of children on that
Question for you...once this study is done, what is the normal
action that puts the recommendations of the study into place? What I'm
trying to ask is that once the study is done, what kind of commitment do we
have from the city that action will be taken in a timely manner?
I am afraid I am unable to help you define objectives for the
than say the outcome of the study should encompass the transportation needs
(current and future) of the neighborhood, the safety of its inhabitants with
reasonable timelines that put the recommendations into place.
I would think that the businesses within the boundary would
interested in this study and its outcome, and the idea of bringing them into
the fold is good. Maybe a mailing to them, outlining the upcoming steps and
requesting their input would be beneficial.
Unfortunately, I need to close. I hope that your meeting on
Thank you for all you are doing for our community.
The top site I would like to bring to the table would be 21st
Ave E and John. We
need a permanent (and vegetated) curb bulb. Everyone on our block agrees.
Numerous vehicles drive the wrong way down the street on a daily basis. It
could be done without affecting the buses. 21st Ave E could also use some
sort of speed control structure (perhaps a traffic half circle or stop sign
at the corner between our block and Rene's). It is currently a raceway. With
people driving the wrong way down the one way, a school, ballfield, and
several blind driveways, it is an accident waiting to happen. Also, as you
are aware, we need to figure out a way to encourage the leagues to park in
the parking lot. I support permit parking. Finally, in general, we could use
more traffic circles and other control structures throughout the
neighborhood to keep the increasing traffic on the main roads. The
neighborhood between 19th and 15th Ave E has many examples of structures
that keep traffic and speeds down on the side streets.
I won't be able to attend the meeting, but several of my neighbors
would like to explore zoned parking along 22nd Ave. East between E. John
and E. Thomas. We've noticed a big influx of cars in the past year -
even before any of the mega projects go up.
Homeowner on corner of 22nd & E. John (green Victorian)
I have one comment about the intersection at 23rd and E. John.
east there is a left turn only light which is often ignored, even by the
buses. And for those that do wait for the light they are subject, as are
the surrounding neighbors, by impatient drivers honking for drivers to turn.
Frequently there is a backup and drivers will cut through on 22nd to avoid
the delay. Accidents are common; drivers turning north against the light
are hit by cars coming up on E. John from Madison where, due to the slope,
have limited vision. I had suggested to the city to put in a left turn only
lane, as there is room for two lanes of traffic, but I never received a
response. The police are aware of drivers ignoring the left turn only light
as they have used our driveway to wait for offending drivers.
I read the PDF document and would concur with what was outlined. I would like to add under the excessive speed/calming that something needs to be done to slow down traffic that starts at 19th Ave E heading downhill/eastbound on E Thomas (right by your house!)then E John (especially between 21st & 23rd Ave E). I am not sure if the notation of excessive speed on 21st & 22nd mentioned on the report was in reference to this so my additional comments might be a correction rather than an addition. Over the weekend [ ~ 8/20/02] there was an accident at 23rd Ave E & E John (minor but pretty loud) and there were the sounds of several near misses (the screeching of tires biting into pavement) earlier in the day...Anyway, my two cents...
200 block 22nd Ave E